Keosha: Our relationship has always just been really natural and organic. Our careers have always been very parallel.
Zoé: We both spent about, almost a decade at companies before we kind of decided to move around a little bit. We both had jobs where we both kinda hit like a little lull in our career. We weren't sure how to really handle it so we reached out to each other. And I just remember us emailing each other, like, words of affirmation and like, you are powerful and you are amazing, you can handle this. Just really encouraging each other.
Keosha:I think we both bring really interesting dynamics in the fact that we're friends and we work at the same place. Now we actually work in the same office, same building. Just someone bringing up your name when you're not in the room and commenting on your work and your ability. You don't know what else that will lead to. And those types of organic relationships are really often the most powerful.
Zoé: We have to be more candid about the conversations we have about our salaries, what we should be making, about helping other women. Keosha: We are all gonna kinda grow, you know, not just financially but just in our careers in general, needs to be derived with no shame, no embarrassment.
Zoé: Well, I think the notion has been often, you know, if you are the only woman, there's only room for you. But I think the reality is that there will not be room for us unless we bring other people that have diverse perspectives. Keosha: I think there can be a comfort that comes with speaking to someone who's, you know, really at your same level, at the same place in the hierarchy that you can turn to for, you know, advice. See if they're experiencing kind of the same issues.
Zoé: It takes a little bit of the pressure off sometimes knowing that this person is my peer. Keosha: It is so important that we're friends. Like, you did so many things for me and how I thought about myself and my career and what I wanted. [Zoé laughs]
Keosha: Zoé!
Zoé: Sorry! Like, I got emotional, you're the emotional one! Keosha: I know, I'm totally emotional when I'm totally the rock right now.
Zoé: We just supported each other through so much and when you think about those people who have just been there for you in life and in your career and who, you know, will be with you until the end, you know? You are one of those girls.
Zoé: You can't get rid of me either.
Keosha: I love it!
